New member Username: Bkoz
Post Number: 4 Registered: Feb-06
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 02:00 GMT I understand the Battery Negative to Chassis and Alternator to Battery Positve of The Big 3 but I'm am confused on what the Chassis to Engine wire is. Can anyone tell me what and where to connect it to??? Thanks!! Please Help!! |
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Gold Member Username: Theelfkeeper
Stockbridge,
GA
USA
Post Number: 1084 Registered: Feb-05
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 02:39 GMT there should already be a wire, prob more then one, going from the engine block to the chassis. you just want to hook a larger wire from someplace on the engine block to the chassis. |
Silver Member Username: Fandim
Reno,
Nevada
United State...
Post Number: 737 Registered: Jun-05
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 06:24 GMT A common place to upgrade this wire, is simply your alternators ground bolt, to negative post on your battery. |
Silver Member Username: N2audio
Lawrence,
Ks
USA
Post Number: 599 Registered: Mar-04
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 15:09 GMT block to chassis often doesn't look like a regular wire. It's typically just a braided strap. It can be hard to find - on my car it's attached at the very back of the engine around where the trans bolts on, and it's grounded to the firewall. IMO it's not nearly as important an upgrade as the alt output and battery (-). |
Silver Member Username: Fandim
Reno,
Nevada
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Post Number: 741 Registered: Jun-05
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 15:51 GMT Hmm...it's not as important as the other two, sure.. But it's also your alternators ground.. That's why instead of doing an upgraded engine to chasis, I just do a wire from a ground bolt to my negative terminal..which in turn also does the same thing as upgrading my engine to chasis.. Seth |
Gold Member Username: B101
Queen City,
NC
USA
Post Number: 1303 Registered: Sep-05
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 18:08 GMT ^^^ X2 batt neg 2 alternator casing!! my car has big 3 4ga & big 4 0ga! |
Silver Member Username: Fandim
Reno,
Nevada
United State...
Post Number: 746 Registered: Jun-05
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 18:11 GMT I have one of those happy little green stickers on my alt too, lol. |
New member Username: Bkoz
Post Number: 6 Registered: Feb-06
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 18:55 GMT Does it matter if the Chassis to Engine wire is longer then 3ft.?? |
Silver Member Username: N2audio
Lawrence,
Ks
USA
Post Number: 607 Registered: Mar-04
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Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 21:26 GMT just keep it as short as reasonably possible. A foot or two here and there isn't going to have a significant impact on overall resistance. |
Silver Member Username: Fandim
Reno,
Nevada
United State...
Post Number: 751 Registered: Jun-05
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Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 07:27 GMT John Smith - the larger gauge wire you use, the longer it can be with the same (or less) resistance. It's not really the length of wire that matters, it's the overall resistance of the wire. (i.e. it'd be better to use 20 feet of 0 gauge, than a foot of 18 gauge) |
Silver Member Username: Jbump
Nebraska City,
Nebraska
USA
Post Number: 134 Registered: Dec-05
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Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 23:37 GMT Do you need to fuse the wire going from your alt to your batt? i see that B doesn't have one with his HO and i don't wanna overload my batt.. |
Silver Member Username: Fandim
Reno,
Nevada
United State...
Post Number: 760 Registered: Jun-05
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Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 01:56 GMT Batteries are capable of taking any amperage load - as long as the voltage does not exceed the max listed in the batteries specs. (i.e. for optima's, it's 15v) |
Platinum Member Username: Glasswolf
Wisteria,
Lane
USA
Post Number: 11206 Registered: Dec-03
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Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 02:10 GMT chassis to block is your alternator's ground wire.
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Silver Member Username: Jbump
Nebraska City,
Nebraska
USA
Post Number: 135 Registered: Dec-05
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Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 03:28 GMT Does it make any difference if you hook your alt ground to your battery though? |
Silver Member Username: Fandim
Reno,
Nevada
United State...
Post Number: 764 Registered: Jun-05
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Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 05:26 GMT Jay B, if you use your alternators ground point, and connect that to your battery, it'll be like an engine to chasis, but better, actually.. as you're cutting out the chassis to go to your batteries neg. |
Silver Member Username: Jbump
Nebraska City,
Nebraska
USA
Post Number: 138 Registered: Dec-05
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Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 05:46 GMT Alright, thanks for the reply |
Platinum Member Username: Glasswolf
Wisteria,
Lane
USA
Post Number: 11209 Registered: Dec-03
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Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 13:58 GMT you still need to connect the block to chassis. period. otherwise things like your ignition system have no ground.
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Bronze Member Username: Bkoz
Post Number: 15 Registered: Feb-06
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Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 14:06 GMT I am still a little confused on the Chassis to Block there are 2 wires coming off of my alt., one to positive Battery post and the other i don't know what it is. Is the other wire the ground? I understand you connect one end of the wire to the chassis and i'm not sure where to connect the other end. Does it go to the mounting bracket that holds the alt.??? Thanks any help would be helpful!! |
Silver Member Username: Jbump
Nebraska City,
Nebraska
USA
Post Number: 140 Registered: Dec-05
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Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 18:28 GMT I got another ?, If your stock wiring could handle the voltage and amperage, when you upgrade, why does it send more voltage/amperage, would it just be better grounds? this is all being stock, sept for my battery... |
Platinum Member Username: Glasswolf
Wisteria,
Lane
USA
Post Number: 11216 Registered: Dec-03
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Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 21:52 GMT if the alternator is stock, the 'big 3' really isn't any benefit to change. You change them if stock wiring is worn and frayed, or if you have a larger alternator capable of higher current delivery.
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Bronze Member Username: Bkoz
Post Number: 26 Registered: Feb-06
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Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 22:57 GMT I am still a little confused on the Chassis to Block there are 2 wires coming off of my alt., one to positive Battery post and the other i don't know what it is. Is the other wire the ground? I understand you connect one end of the wire to the chassis and i'm not sure where to connect the other end. Does it go to the mounting bracket that holds the alt.??? Thanks any help would be helpful!! |
Silver Member Username: Fandim
Reno,
Nevada
United State...
Post Number: 767 Registered: Jun-05
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Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 02:31 GMT Actually, your chassis to block can be surpassed by just doing a block to neg on the battery. This is even more ideal (assuming you're using a decent gauge wire) because copper wire can in general carry more current than the same distance of your cars chassis. |
Bronze Member Username: Bkoz
Post Number: 27 Registered: Feb-06
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Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 02:34 GMT i'm confused on what the block is. This may sound stupid (sorry) but what is the block??? Thanks!!!! |
Silver Member Username: Fandim
Reno,
Nevada
United State...
Post Number: 768 Registered: Jun-05
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Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 02:36 GMT oh btw, the other wire isnt a ground..I'm assuming you're referring to the one connected to the plug. this wire tells the alternator basically when to turn on. If you leave it unplugged, your alternator simply wont charge, at any RPM. (think of it as like a remote turn on for your amps) In general this is commonly connected to your ignition switch. |
Silver Member Username: Fandim
Reno,
Nevada
United State...
Post Number: 769 Registered: Jun-05
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Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 02:41 GMT the block is referring to your engine block. Also in regards to the alternators ground question - the ground point is normally the bolts that you attach it to your engine with. This can also be used as a spot to run (for instance 0 gauge) a wire to your batteries negative terminal, to avoid using an engine to chassis, (or better yet, to simply upgrade instead of replace the part of the big 3 commonly referred to as such). |
Silver Member Username: Jbump
Nebraska City,
Nebraska
USA
Post Number: 141 Registered: Dec-05
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Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 04:11 GMT My car is 10 years old, would it be a good idea to do the Big 3.. And my battery ground directly to my engine block, so i added a chassis ground. I thought it was kind of weird, any ideas on why? |