Old Rockford Fosgate Power Ratings
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Gold Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 1457 Registered: Apr-05 | Hey guys. I was messing around on eBay and was looking at some amps (I've been severly sick the past couple of days). And I ran across some old RF amps that claim they do WELL OVER their rated power. Here's some links: http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-ROCKFORD-FOSGATE-POWER-T8002-1394-WATTS-RMS_W0QQit emZ5863892995QQcategoryZ39737QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/Rockford-Fosgate-Punch-500-2-2-Ch-amp-amplifier_W0QQitemZ586 3464078QQcategoryZ39737QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ROCKFORD-FOSGATE-POWER-1100A2-AMPLIFIER_W0QQitemZ5863537685Q QcategoryZ39744QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem What's up with these claims? I always knew they were underrated, but that's a TON! Almost to a point it could be dangerous! I'm just a curiouse creature, thanks guys! |
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Gold Member Username: Chaunb3400Huntsville, Alabama U.S. Post Number: 5290 Registered: Jul-05 | I think i can remember seeing somewhere that the T30001bd (3000rms) put out closer to 4000 rms, or something odd like that |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 5008 Registered: Dec-04 | hey Jake this is Old school fosgate http://cgi.ebay.com/rockford-fosgate-punch-200_W0QQitemZ5863508458QQcategoryZ397 37QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem this is possibly the best line of amps RF ever made  too bad they don't make em like this aymore. http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Rockford-Fosgate-Power-650-New_W0QQitemZ5866018661QQcat egoryZ39744QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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Gold Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 1462 Registered: Apr-05 | "this is a rock amp i had this amp taken out of my sons are it was the amp that makes the car bass very loud" Wow... That sounds like someone that knows his sh1t! And James, what about those other amps? I'm not looking to buy one, but they act like it's general knowledge that they're HIGHLY underrated... |
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Silver Member Username: UcfsaxmanOviedo/orlando, Fl Post Number: 599 Registered: May-05 | I've always been a big fan of Rockford Fosgate amps thats why i'm running 2 of their amps right now in my car. I love my power 1001bd! |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 5026 Registered: Dec-04 | there new stuff like many companies now days(soundstream,Orion, just to name a few) are lacking the build quality they used to have. That second amp I posted the power 650, is a absolute monster of an amp you wanna talk about underrating lol! IMO it's one of the best amps ever produced from that era. I am not a big fan of the new RF. I used to run a power 650(old school), and then another system with a few punch 150's, then stepped up to the punch 200ix's with the built in x-over cards. Man if RF still made stuff like they used to I would never had strayed. |
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Silver Member Username: Lil_jonPost Number: 318 Registered: Jul-05 | jake i think i have those amps in your 1st post the last 2 but mine are chrome mayb there the same if they are then the last 2 are much cleaner sound better to me but it wont get as loud as the 10001 bd i had the 1st 1 longo posted sound better then all of em i havent heard the second 1 james posted but man i wish i could |
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Platinum Member Username: GlasswolfWisteria, Lane USA Post Number: 11069 Registered: Dec-03 | old 80s and early 90s amps that were the best at the time? Orion's GS, SX, GX, and HCCA models RF's Punch and Power models PPI's Art, AM, and .2 series models US Amps (just about any model) some of the older higher end Phoenix Gold amps, Soundstream, and a/d/s amps. none of them are easily found for cheap though, even now. Everybody seems to be aware of their quality so they are collected by many. |
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Gold Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 1471 Registered: Apr-05 | Yea, but no one ever answered my main question... And no, I'm not trying to be a dick... But, RF specs are: 50 W rms x 4 channel @ 4 ohm 100 W rms x 4 channel @ 2 ohm 200 W rms x 2 channels @ 4 ohm 612 W rms net, all channels driven into full power at 2 ohm (certified this amplier). And the guys claiming: 250 W rms x 2 channels @ 4 ohm 500 W rms x 2 channels @ 2 ohm 1000 W rms x 1 channel @ 4 ohm 1460 W rms net, all channels driven into full power at 2 ohm. Are those realistic numbers? |
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Platinum Member Username: GlasswolfWisteria, Lane USA Post Number: 11075 Registered: Dec-03 | he's full of it. underrated amps are usually about 10-20% over spec'ed power at most. |
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Silver Member Username: Lil_jonPost Number: 320 Registered: Jul-05 | 500.2 jake |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 5028 Registered: Dec-04 | "old 80s and early 90s amps that were the best at the time? Orion's GS, SX, GX, and HCCA models RF's Punch and Power models PPI's Art, AM, and .2 series models US Amps (just about any model) some of the older higher end Phoenix Gold amps, Soundstream, and a/d/s amps. " I couldnt agree more man I Love those amps! |
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Gold Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 1477 Registered: Apr-05 | I figured he was full of it. LOL! |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 5032 Registered: Dec-04 | 1460 watts lol! yeah right thats more then double the rated power. You shold write him a little e-mail saying if he doesnt change those spec's ebay will be notified. Thats a bunch of Cr@p that some newbie is going to buy that amp trying to power 2 500 watt rms subs at 2ohms and all he is going to be getting is 200. Thats garbage if you ask me! |
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Silver Member Username: Lil_jonPost Number: 321 Registered: Jul-05 | those are 1000 watt james 500.2 it wont do 1400 only the newer models do |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 5117 Registered: Dec-04 | "But, RF specs are: 50 W rms x 4 channel @ 4 ohm 100 W rms x 4 channel @ 2 ohm 200 W rms x 2 channels @ 4 ohm 612 W rms net, all channels driven into full power at 2 ohm (certified this amplier). " How do you get 1000 watts out of that ????? and what do you mean the new ones do? are they rated at 8 volts or something? I dont think so man. RF isnt getting any better in quality these days. |
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Silver Member Username: Lil_jonPost Number: 322 Registered: Jul-05 | http://cgi.ebay.com/Rockford-Fosgate-Punch-500-2-2-Ch-amp-amplifier_W0QQitemZ586 3464078QQcategoryZ39737QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem sorry that is not the amp i have mine is chrome and says power not punch wich puts out 1000 watts. ''and what do you mean the new ones do?'' i also have the 10001bd wich puts out 1430 watts rms at 14.4 volts ''RF isnt getting any better in quality these days.'' I wasnt refering to quality, I was refering to power, They have more power then the old ones do. I had New Rockford Old Rockford and Older Rockford. |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 5134 Registered: Dec-04 | "I wasnt refering to quality, I was refering to power, They have more power then the old ones do. I had New Rockford Old Rockford and Older Rockford. " I disagree with you 100% old RF from the mid 80's to mid 90's were the best amps rockford ever made hands down! |
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Silver Member Username: Lil_jonPost Number: 323 Registered: Jul-05 | you can disagree its your opion. You seen my posts I try my best to talk of only what I know And Facts Are Rockford newer models Pack more power then the Old Rockford. I have 2 Rockford setups both are 1000 watt rated Rockford Amps Both Power Series. The T10001Bd obviously Puts out more power Its obvious wich car is louder Fact. Im debating the power diffrence not wich 1 is better. But When I get in my car I Can hear wich 1 gets louder |
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Gold Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 1484 Registered: Apr-05 | I figured it's a bunch of bullsh1t. I'm getting more and more impressed with RF's newest stuff. I hope they come out with something that impresses me enough to use it... :P |
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Silver Member Username: Lil_jonPost Number: 324 Registered: Jul-05 | Why are you moving away from the eclipse amps jake? |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 5148 Registered: Dec-04 | when you say rockford's old stuff what exactly are you reffering to? |
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New member Username: RoytPost Number: 1 Registered: Feb-06 | I like my Jensen setup I have a 200watt 10" |
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Silver Member Username: Lil_jonPost Number: 325 Registered: Jul-05 | http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/fosgate-1000a2-amp-sub-amplifier-1000watt-rockfor d_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ38638QQitemZ8038644865QQrdZ1 /\old amp not the same amp mine is a bit diffrent i have yet to find another of its kind yet! http://cgi.ebay.com/ROCKFORD-FOSGATE-PUNCH-40-DSM-MOSFET-AMPLIFIER-L-K_W0QQitemZ 5867037940QQcategoryZ39737QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem /\older basicly same amp you posted if not older rock. same amp i have cept mine is 20 by 4 only rock amp i would use that i have on my highs once again debating power the 10001bd is louder both setups have speakers from its time 1st setup 2 12 punch power speaker 2nd t1 12s the 10001 bd setup is louder no questions asked fact! the old sh!t is cleaner tighter overall better sq even with those old speakers |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 5154 Registered: Dec-04 | I am talking about before they even came out with the 10001bd. That punch 40 is a great little amp. The amps I am reffering to are power 650, power 1000, punch 35,75,150,(the first of the punch line) then the punch 40,60,100,and 200 ix's. those were the best amps rockford ever made |
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Gold Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 1487 Registered: Apr-05 | I'm not turning away from Eclipse amps, yet. I'm actually looking at the Zapco Competition line for a nice summer upgrade :P. But I have more than one car that I have tunes in, and I'm just hoping RF pulls their head out of their @ss and comes out with something of good quality that'll grab people like me's attention... |
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Silver Member Username: Lil_jonPost Number: 327 Registered: Jul-05 | ''I am talking about before they even came out with the 10001bd.'' ya dont say I have a punch 4040dsm if ya want its yours $30 |
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Silver Member Username: Lil_jonPost Number: 328 Registered: Jul-05 | ''I'm actually looking at the Zapco Competition line for a nice summer upgrade :P.'' Didnt you get a hold of a 9.0? But I have more than one car that I have tunes in, and I'm just hoping RF pulls their head out of their @ss and comes out with something of good quality that'll grab people like me's attention... hell why not go with arc for your second car? From what i hear of arc rockford old stuff probly wont sound as good, I wont know until i got some arc myself but im sure it will be great |
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Gold Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 1493 Registered: Apr-05 | I have a Zapco C2K9.0, but it's not big enough for my Ti Pros. I have 4,000 watts RMS a peice to them right now. So the upgrade would probably be two Zapco 4kw's. But that would be pushing my budget a LOOOOONG ways and my electrical system too... But it'd be way cool... The C2K9.0 is awesome if you want to get the best out of Eclipse Ti's. It's almost as if it was built for them... |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 5163 Registered: Dec-04 | does it work? If it works I will take it lil jon. let me know. |
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Gold Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 1506 Registered: Apr-05 | This thread got a little carried away... LOL! |
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Silver Member Username: Lil_jonPost Number: 329 Registered: Jul-05 | I blew 1 or 2 channels on it other then that its crystal clean i aint gone try to FIX it, basicly its collecting dust, let me know leave an email im seriously trying to sell it great for tweets |
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Silver Member Username: Lil_jonPost Number: 330 Registered: Jul-05 | jake sell me your zapco amp and buy a few of those old rockford amps you short 1k watts for your pro |
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Gold Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 1511 Registered: Apr-05 | Nah. And I'm short 1kw? They're 3,000 watts RMS, 5,000 watts "max". They're plenty happy where they are. But I'm sure they wouldn't mind some more juice... But my electrical system would need more upgrades... |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 5186 Registered: Dec-04 | no man not looking to purchase someone else's dust collecting junk but thanks though. "jake sell me your zapco amp and buy a few of those old rockford amps you short 1k watts for your pro" at that point while running 4000 watts the 1.5 db increase in adding another 2000 watts unless strictly competeing without budget the electrical upgrade is a serious cost factor. |
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Silver Member Username: Lil_jonPost Number: 332 Registered: Jul-05 | bummer |
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Silver Member Username: Lil_jonPost Number: 333 Registered: Jul-05 | hey james i think if you contact genesis they said they can make what you want so they can hand make a amp with the same coponets as the old stuff you like and then you can customize the logo on it an call it the Longo Status Amp lol I thought bout so they can replicate the art amp only because the coponets in mine are worn and could sound better if new |
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Gold Member Username: Kd7nfrMontpelier, ID United States Post Number: 1526 Registered: Apr-05 | James: yea, once you get up in the thousands of watts, it takes a TON more juice to really notice a difference. But I want to be one of the few and proud owners of a Zapco 4kw... They're just pure sexy... |
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Gold Member Username: James1115Ct Post Number: 5235 Registered: Dec-04 | they sure are |
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