2 subs - 2 amps! WIRING & wud power cap b gud?

 

munkee
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I have 2 Audiobahn AW1251T 12" 400 watt RMS Subwoofers and 2 XM-D400P5 Mono Class D Amps to run them. The amp specs are:

200 w RMS x 1 at 4 ohms
400 w RMS x 1 at 2 ohms

So i guess i need to run the subs at 2 ohms each to give them the full 400 watts RMS power?????

If anyone could show me how to wire this up to get the best out of the subs that would be a great help!!

(im gonna have the two subs monted upside down so that you can see the bak of the sub where the magnet is... if that makes a difference?)

With all this, wud it be a good idea to have a power cap?? If so, wot rating??
 

Gold Member
Username: Glasswolf

NorthWest, Michigan USA

Post Number: 2160
Registered: Dec-03
inverting the subs won't make any difference to the sound.
It only affects enclosure volume.

are the subs 4 ohms? single coil or DVC?

caps won't help.
 

munkee
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The specs of the subs are:

800-watts MAX Power Handling
400-watts R.M.S. Power Handling

2" four Layer Black Aluminum Voice Coil

Nice Dual 4 Ohm Voice Coils

2 Ohm or 8 Ohm Operation Each one

So you recon having a power cap wont make any bit of difference??

thanx GlassWolf
 

Gold Member
Username: Glasswolf

NorthWest, Michigan USA

Post Number: 2174
Registered: Dec-03
wire the coils in parallel and put one sub on each amp.
you'll get 400wRMS per sub

nah caps are a gimmick. they might mask the problem for a while, but they don't solve it.
if lights dim, you need a bigger alternator. no way around that.
use a 4AWG amp kit to wire these puppies, too, with a distribution block to split power to both amps.
www.knukonceptz.com for power and interconnects
 

munkee
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sorry to be a pain but do you have a diagram to show how you "wire the coils in parallel" as i am not too sure what this means

Thanks again... You really know your stuff!
 

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Username: Glasswolf

NorthWest, Michigan USA

Post Number: 2191
Registered: Dec-03
http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/rftech/wiringwizard/
 

munkee
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Thanks for the link but they only explain wiring with 1 amp. I have done a quick diagram, please could you take a look and let me know if its right:

http://www.trustphotosite.com/adamglenis/SUBS/

Thanks again!

 

Gold Member
Username: Glasswolf

NorthWest, Michigan USA

Post Number: 2195
Registered: Dec-03
yeah you wire one 4+4 DVC sub to one amp.
then do it again with the other amp.
then use a single 4AWG power cable from the battery to the amps' location, and split there with a distribution block and run 8AWG line to each amp and ground with the same 8AWG.

and no your pic is wrong
the coils are bridged + to + and - to -
then wire the one pair of + and - from amp tp sob.
 

munkee
Unregistered guest
so is this more like it?

http://www.trustphotosite.com/adamglenis/SUBS/

Sorry for all the Q's
 

Gold Member
Username: Glasswolf

NorthWest, Michigan USA

Post Number: 2201
Registered: Dec-03
yes
got it
 

munkee
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Thats great thanks!!

So using this wire setup in that diagram will run both the subs at their 400 watts RMS each?

That is my final question :-)

Thank you so much for your help! really appreciate it!!!
 

Gold Member
Username: Glasswolf

NorthWest, Michigan USA

Post Number: 2209
Registered: Dec-03
yup
 

Pat L
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Caps Suck! A Waste of $ unless your in Competition.
 

munkee
Unregistered guest
maybe... but they look cool...LOL

If i was gonna have 1, where would i wire it in? Would it be wetween the battery and distribution block?

thanks
 

New member
Username: Lakers6902

San bernardino, CA U.S.A.

Post Number: 5
Registered: Apr-04
just a question, is a dual voice coil better? and wats better about it? also
 

Bronze Member
Username: Southernrebel

Louisiana USA

Post Number: 50
Registered: Mar-04
DVC just gives you wiring options...

ex:
w/ a DVC 4ohm sub you can get either a 2 or 8ohm load
 

Gold Member
Username: Glasswolf

NorthWest, Michigan USA

Post Number: 2212
Registered: Dec-03
most subs are offered in several versions, DVC 2+2 and 4+4 or DVC 4+4 and SVC 4 ohm
this gives you multiple ways to wire one or more subs depending on the amp(s) you choose so you can match subs and amps for an ideal power output.
there's no difference in performance.

the capacitor would go just before or just after the distribution block near the amp(s)
usually wired into one of the positive nodes of the block as a "pass through" and grounded where the amp is grounded so the capacitor is in "parallel" with the amp.
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