Glasswolf or Jonathan: WHY...???

 

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Username: Edster922

Abubala, Ababala The Occupation

Post Number: 2012
Registered: Mar-05
Looking at their stock listings of PPI amps at acaraudio.com (anybody used them?) I noticed that for the new PPI amps, you don't get much of an RMS increase when going from 4 to 2 ohms.

For instance, the old PCX-440
• 40W x 4 at 4 Ohms
• 100W x 4 at 2 Ohms

And the new DCX300.4
• 50W x 4 at 4 Ohms
• 75W x 4 at 2 Ohms

So basically RMS *quadruples* on the old PCX but increases only by 50% on the new DCX when you move from 4 to 2 ohms.

Why is that?
What does that suggest about the technology in the new DCX models?
Is an amp that has a bigger jump in RMS likely to run warmer?
Do most amps have a big jump like the PCX or a slighter one like the DCX?
 

Platinum Member
Username: Glasswolf

Wisteria, Lane USA

Post Number: 10345
Registered: Dec-03
please stop reposting the same question with different topics.
 

Gold Member
Username: Edster922

Abubala, Ababala The Occupation

Post Number: 2016
Registered: Mar-05
guess that's because I'm waiting for an answer from you...it looks like you are the most technically knowledgeable person on this car forum.

Does this mean you don't know? Fine, just say so then and I'll stop.
 

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Username: Jonathan_f

GA USA

Post Number: 4769
Registered: May-04
"Why is that?
What does that suggest about the technology in the new DCX models?
Is an amp that has a bigger jump in RMS likely to run warmer?
Do most amps have a big jump like the PCX or a slighter one like the DCX?"

It means that the DCX amps aren't built as well as the older ones for one. It's that simple, really. The ideal amp would double its power with half the impedance, which is rarely the case.
 

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Username: Edster922

Abubala, Ababala The Occupation

Post Number: 2017
Registered: Mar-05
thanks Jonathan, that's the first answer I've managed to get for this question.

How realistic do you think most amps' power ratings are? In home audio it's known that with a couple of exceptions most receivers costing under say $1000 have inflated RMS numbers.

I'm just wondering since you wrote that the ideal amp would double RMS with half the impedance, while the PCX440 claims to quadruple RMS. Is that in your opinion likely just marketing guff or is there some chance that it's an honest claim?
 

Gold Member
Username: Edster922

Abubala, Ababala The Occupation

Post Number: 2018
Registered: Mar-05
PS. actually scratch the "quadruples" bit, my math stinks. Going from 40 to 100 is only 2.5x not 4x, lol.
 

Gold Member
Username: Basshead86

Ocala, FL USA

Post Number: 1201
Registered: Aug-05
the genrel rule of thumb is around 75 cents to 1 dollar a watt.:-)

maybe a little higher with some of the super-high quality amps
 

Silver Member
Username: Tdbdadrummer

Post Number: 235
Registered: Aug-05
That theory holds true sadly lol. 400W Cerwin Vega E-715's, almost $400 each...V-15F's are smaller in cabinet size, so they can only charge like $320 lol.
 

Platinum Member
Username: Glasswolf

Wisteria, Lane USA

Post Number: 10365
Registered: Dec-03
actually I'd already answered your other post when you made this one.
go look.

the difference in output at load between the amps is a factor of the power supply used, and how tightly it's regulated.
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