Canon ZR60 MiniDV Digital Camcorder with 2.5" LCD, 18x Optical Zoom and Image Stabilization
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Pluses:
1) 18x optical zoom. Let's face it, you DO NOT want to use digital zoom. Digital zoom just "pixelates" your picture(i.e. makes it unclear and messy). If you are looking for good zoom, totally disregard digital zoom and get as much optical zoom as you can. I haven't seen any miniDV Sony camcorder with more than 10x.
2) All the options included. S-video to connect to your tv, 4-pin firewire to connect to your computer..... etc. etc. This sucker is loaded.
3) Low light performance. Ok, there is a lot of controversy on this, but I was filming surfing from a pier an hour after sunset and I still got workable footage. This wasn't even with the night mode on. The worst thing about filming in low light is you have to have a really steady hand because the camera doesn't focus as much. Also, make sure to stay on your object because refocusing can take up to 10 seconds.
4) No motor noise. I don't know what everyone else is talking about but on the playback there isn't any motor noise. I'll leave it at that.
5) Color viewfinder. Don't need to waste batteries by using the LCD.
6) It's made by Canon. Almost every electronic product I have is Canon. They have been excellent to me. When my digital camera broke after having it for a year they fixed it under warranty no questions asked.
Minus
1) The image stabilizer. Compared to a Hi-8 this is a tiny camcorder. You will have to learn to make your hand ultra-steady if you want to get good footage. Still, I don't find this a drawback because you learn quickly how to keep your hand from shaking. Otherwise, buy a tripod.
Accessories you should buy
I struggled with this area because what's included with the camcorder is hard to find. I bought:
1) A Tiffen 30.5 mm UV filter. You can shoot up-sun and the footage still comes out clear.
2) A BP-512 battery. You NEED one of these or a higher version. The camcorder comes with a battery but it barely lasts for an hour. The BP-512 lasts for around 2 hours if you don't use the LCD.
3) A Firewire 4 pin to 6 pin cable. I have an eMac and the firewire port is 6 pin, while on the camcorder it is 4 pin. With one of these you can edit your footage on your computer.
4) If you plan on hooking it up to the tv, buy an s-video cable. The camcorder only comes with an s-video to analog connector(the 3 colored things, red yellow and white)
5) Also, get a camcorder bag. You don't need a huge one because this thing is tiny. Any camcorder bag will work, you'll probably want one that has some form of water resistance just in case.
6) You might want a battery charger. The camcorder comes with one but I bought a TurboCharger anyway.
7) MiniDV tapes. No miniDV tapes come with the camcorder so unless you buy some you'll have nothing to record from.
Summary
Overall, if you are looking for digital quality and don't have a whole bunch of money to spend, go buy this camcorder. Keep in mind that you'll need an extra $150 for accessories and you'll be set.
Good MiniDV camcorder, very good value, average "low light"
Pros: very light weight, very small, very good pictures, very good color rendition, full features, when compared to my PV-DV600 (a $...camcorder at its time), very affordable...Cons: No "Back Light", No "Infra Red (IR) shooting", No "Hot Shoe"
The picture color from the PV-DV600 really was washed out after seeing what the ZR60 can put out. Just looking at the new movies, we are so surprised to see that there is finally color on our TV! The ZR60 also has some motor noise, too! But it truly is not as loud as my old Panasonic, if the Panasonic was loud at all.
Knowing what I was looking for helped the decision on my ZR60. Since I already own a digital camera, incidentally a 4 MP G2 from Canon, I really didn't need the camcorder to take digital photos at all. So this weed out a lot of so-called "high-end" options - sub-par digital photographing. The BP-512 battery and charger that my G2 uses fit perfectly in my ZR60. This saves me well over $...in cost on optional batteries and chargers.
As a home movies maker using my kids a lot, in-door picture quality is actually better than the old PV-DV600. My family room is about 20x20 feet with two 75W floor lamps on each corner. This is the typical in-door, worst-case condition I have. The ZR60 lives up to its promise. My neighbor (Sony TRV22) and I had a shoot-out tonight and the result compelled me to write this review extensively. I sometimes wonder if people who write those reviews about the "grainy" and "poor" in-door pictures are actually from Canon's competitors or what, but I find them very much biased toward the Sony TRV19/22. I don't know the reason why they say that, but I don't see much differences if you are doing straight color shooting. Every critic I read on the internet points to "low light" shooting, but never bother to define what their "low light" condition is. Strange! I am not talking about the IR mode here people! Just straight out apple to apple. They are about the same. Yes the Canon has no IR mode; so stay away if you need IR. I had my Panasonic for 4 years and I only had done IR once - for experimentation purpose just to see how well it works. Also, the night mode is, just that, night mode. Slowing down the shutter so you'll get brighter COLOR pictures. This produces a sort of "slow motion" effect. This is typical for all MiniDV. No brainer. But some people make a big deal out of it. Strange.
If you don't have enough light, use a video light (or color enhanced light in Panasonic's term). You are bound to take grainy picture if you don't have enough light. Even in my 4 mega pixel G2, to produce a brighter picture with the same level of "low light", you have to either slow down the shutter, or use a higher ISO setting. Using high ISO setting is bound to yield grainy pictures, if you want to maintain faster shutter speed. Slowing down the shutter will produce a "slow motion" like video. This is the law of physics.
I feel that either A) people expect too much out of a digital camcorder B) don't know what digital photography is C) too lazy to read their manual or D) comparing apple to orange (IR Vs non-IR). This is why I want to stand up for the fact, and not for the brand.
To tell the truth, a simple 3W video light goes a long way if you shoot in-door up to 10 feet. Use higher power; say 20W, for a larger crowd and wider coverage. When using video lights, don't stand too close to your subject for they'll over exposed.
I have done my homework and (yes) I know what I am looking for after using a MiniDV to make homemade DVD for over 4 years. The Canon ZR60 covers everything I need except for no "back light" (brings some inconvenience), no "IR mode" (not needed), and no "Hot shoe" (kind of making me angry). Other than these issues, the Canon ZR60 is what a typical family needs without paying a whole lot.
A Great Buy for the $$$$ - But Get an External MIC!!!
1. Sony WCS-999 Wireless Mic System
2. Sony ECM-717 Table Top Single Point Mic
The WCS-999 comes with a transmitter and receiver and one lavalier mic (clip on type). In addition, the transmitter has a stereo mini port input for the mic and so does the receiver. The ECM-717 is great if you just want to set it up and forget it. It's dual powered, so it can run on batteries and plugged directly into the mic port on the ZR60 and then clipped to your shirt or whatnot. This approach places the mic far enough away from the camcorder to eliminate all motor noise. Secondly, you can plug the ECM-717 into the transmitter of the WCS-999 - then plug the WCS-999 receiver into the ZR60. Next, you just put the WCS-999 transmitter (with the ECM-717 attached) on a table and then shoot your video. For dual mixed sound, plug the lavalier mic that comes with the WCS-999 into the receiver and clip it to your shirt. Then you are picking up sound from the ECM-717, wherever you locate it, AND the mic clipped on to your shirt.
Bottom line, this provides you with enough options to get excellent sound and TOTALLY eliminates the motor whine that people "whine" about! For $, you can't expect the world but considering the ZR series has excellent picture quality (and the ZR60 is better than the 40 in that department), spend the extra money and get the mic hookups! The WCS-999 system can be had for around $ online. You can get by with just this. The ECM-717 unit is approx. $. So, you spend an extra $ and you get quality sound, quality pictures, etc.
I won't go on about the camera - many have here - just look at the reviews of the ZR40 series to get a feel for it. Most people who complain complain about the motor noise and the battery life. Again, do yourself another favor and get the BP-522 battery - it gives you about 5 hours of recording time with the LCD on.
You get what you pay for. Don't skimp and you will have a very nice system and if you decide to upgrade later once prices come down on the more sophisticated cameras, you can always use the mic systems with that new camera - they will not be throw away.
For I/O with your computer, get a simple IEEE 1394 firewire card. I actually got a 1394 firewire card that also has USB 2.0 ports. Then, SIIG, Inc. makes a "hub" that mounts in the front of your PC. You then connect the internal PCI card to the hub and that places all the ports right there on the front of your PC - very convenient. The card I got is a Belkin 1394/USB 2.0 card.
Digital video is great - if you add a DVD burner you can make your own DVDs and preserve your memories forever....
Great Camera for the Price. Need to Change Default Settings.
* Program AE: Auto
* AE Shift: <= -1.0
* Shutter: 1/60
* White Balance: Indoor.
With these settings indoor filming is quite good, still not perfect, but according to everything I read, these type of cameras (mini-DV) are never going to be great low light performers. When I filmed outside or in my workshop (which has ALOT of light) the quality was amazing.
I love the 18x zoom on this camera. There are many different fading options as well as other effects (Black&White is cool). It also comes with a remote control that comes in handy. The LCD screen is a good size as well as very functional. Manual is good as well.
I have not downloaded it to my computer yet, but from what I read it comes with good software which makes it easy.
Bottom line, I do not feel you can get a better camera in this price range with all of the options as long as you do not use the default settings for indoor filming. Supposedly the Sony's are better indoor performers but they only come with 10x zoom (I really like the 18x) and they do not have any manual control buttons and the LCD screens are suppose to be pretty bad, plus they are more. Also, the battery that comes with this one only last approximately one hour.
solid video, but make sure you have plenty of light
- powerful 18x zoom. while less powerful than its siblings (20x for zr65 and 22x for zr70), 18x zoom is still better than most (sonys typically have 10x zoom).
- generally good video quality.
- pass-through analog-digital conversion.
- many optional accessories using the accessory shoe.
- low price, okay value.
cons:
- the deal breaker for me is poor low light performance - expect very grainy video unless the room is well lit.
- the accessory shoe is not a hot shoe; this means that while you can get a third party video light, the camcorder will have absolutely zero interaction with the light. contrast this with sony, which has some video lights that will even adjust light intensity automatically depending on inputs from the camcorder.
- does not support flash memory for stills but given the poor still quality of the zr65 and zr70, this isn't a terrible loss.
- colors a bit washed out in videos.
- bottom loading cassette - can't remove tape while camcorder is on a tripod.
- motor noise can be heard when recording a quiet room.
- while easy to hold, this camcorder is a little bigger than its competition: 2.3"W x 5.8"D x 4.1"H, weighing 18.3 oz.
it's hard to beat the price of the zr60, but you get what you pay for. if you shoot mainly in well lit situations and don't need still photo capability, this may work for you. for low light situations, you can also use a video light. but for outdoor shoots with low light, video lights won't help much either. although a bit more expensive, i would recommend the trv19 over the zr60. i hope this helps your buying decision. peace.